Sunday, August 25, 2013

In Case You Missed It......(8-25-13)


New Obama policy warns agents not to detain illegal immigrant parents

This is what happens when Republicans "reach across the aisle."
...The Obama administration issued a new policy Friday that says immigration agents should try not to arrest and deport illegal immigrant parents of minor children. The move adds to the categories of people the administration is trying not to deport...
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Martin Luther III blames Trayvon Martin's death on his skin color.

Is he searching for headlines? I didn't even know he existed until now.
"However, sadly, the tears of Trayvon Martin's mother and father remind us that, far too frequently, the color of one's skin remains a license to profile, to arrest and to even murder with no regard for the content of one's character," he said, calling for "stand your ground" self-defense laws to be repealed in states where they have been enacted....
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Rush Limbaugh: “If I had a father he would look like ‘Shorty’ Delbert Belton. If I had a son he would look like Chris Lane” 

Rush nails it.

 

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Romney's Top Donor Teams With Soros Front Group On Immigration Reform

Singer will likely back Christie in 2016. The reasons to oppose Christie are now too numerous to list.
Immigration Forum (NIF) for its Evangelical Immigration Table (EIT) initiative. Singer is the founder and CEO of Wall Street hedge fund Elliott Management Corporation and the man who made Mitt Romney's 2012 campaign for president happen. 
“Ali Noorani, the forum's [NIF’s] executive director, said financial resources for the Evangelical Immigration Table's efforts are coming from a range of supporters, including new conservative donors such as Paul Singer -- a hedge fund manager and major donor to Mitt Romney's 2012 presidential campaign,” USA Today’s Erin Kelly wrote on Wednesday. Singer was not just any major donor to Romney's campaign, he was the major donor.
 By all accounts, Singer was the reason why Romney won the GOP nomination to face off against Obama........


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23 comments:

BOSMAN said...

RWN,

I'm glad you brought this back.

Right Wingnut said...

As long as you think it adds to the site, I'll do one more often, but probably not every day.

I hope people understand that sometimes it's necessary to stir the pot to get a conversation going. I know you understand that, Bosman. :)

RomneyMan said...

"The reasons to oppose Christie are now to numerous to list."

I I guess that being a successful conservative gov in a blue state is not one of them...

Recall Pablo's excellent comparisons to Christie v 'conservative' Perry?


OR, you could go for some 8 month legislative newbie who does naff all except moan like Waldorf and statler from the balcony- and offer zero alternatives...know anyone like that?

Right Wingnut said...

I guess that being a successful conservative gov in a blue state is not one of them...

1. When was the last time a blue state Republican won the presidency?

2. Do you really believe Christie would win his home state with the higher turnout in a presidential election?

3. When was the last time a president of either party was elected despite losing their home state?



Pablo said...

Romneyman,

You have to remember that...

1. The Conservatives In Mouth Only are going to call Christie a RINO regardless of the evidence that shows he is more conservative. In RW´s mind, Sarah Palin, who averaged nearly 8% annual growth in her budgets is "conservative", while Christie, who averaged around 3.5% annual growth is a RINO.

2. You can´t discuss the concept of "electibility" with the Conservatives in Mouth Only. They have constructed a narrative where McCain and Romney weren´t elected because they weren´t "conservative" enough. They believe, despite all evidence, that there are some secret stash of talk radio listening conservatives in swing states who just won´t vote because they thought Romney and McCain weren´t hardcore enough. The Conservatives In Mouth Only don´t care too much for polls and since they brainwash themselves all day watching the Conservative Entertainment Complex they don´t realize that there exists 65% of the country that doesnt´t march to beat of the same drum.

3. RW, I got one for you -- when was the last time a far right "conservative" won the presidency? And don´t you dare mention Ronald Reagan. Reagan, would never had won the nomination in today´s GOP. Marco Rubio is to the right of Barry Goldwater. Moderate Republicans, when they detach themselves from the Conservative Entertainment Complex, have a chance to win. A tea party, one term senator from Texas who wants to shut down the government does not.

Anonymous said...

Bravo Pablo! The Thinking Conservative, you are! Keep it up!
Ellie

Right Wingnut said...

Nice piece of rhetoric, but you didn't answer my questions. Reagan and Goldwater are no longer with us. The topic at hand is Chris Christie, and whether he can be elected while losing his home state.

There is plenty of time left to highlight Christie's record.



Pablo said...

Yes, Christie can get elected and lose his home state. And he is the only Republican that comes close to winning against Hillary. Please see any poll. Does that answer your question?

Right Wingnut said...

Yes, Christie can get elected and lose his home state.

Theoretically, it could happen, but to my knowledge, it never has.

And he is the only Republican that comes close to winning against Hillary. Please see any poll.

The polls three years out suggested that Hillary would be elected president in 2008 too.

And he is the only Republican that comes close to winning against Hillary. Please see any poll.

Based on your logic, the others should stay home, and we should just give it to Christie.

Actually, perhaps we should just coronate Hillary, because according to your polls, she can't be beat. If that's the case, I'd rather go down swinging than lose with another Northeast Republican.

Does that answer your question?

Yes it does. Thank you.

Right Wingnut said...

The days of the GOP winning the presidency by trying to win the "middle" are over. The Democrats have perfected the art of buying off this very small sliver of the electorate. Overwhelming turnout from the conservative base will be needed. Rather than concede with a moderate, I'll take my chances with Cruz, Lee, Paul, Walker, Pence, Jindal, Palin. Any of them. Not Christie. Not Bush. And probably not Rubio, although he wouldn't be quite as bad as the other two.

Pablo said...

"Rather than concede with a moderate, I'll take my chances with Cruz, Lee, Paul, Walker, Pence, Jindal, Palin."

I have no problem with Walker, Pence, and Jindal. But I notice that you can´t respond to the fact that Christie cut more government in NJ than Palin did in Alaska, yet somehow she makes your "conservative" list. Sorry, facts are facts. Christie is more conservative than Palin. I can´t say for sure if he is more conservative than Cruz or Paul because Cruz and Paul have never been in charge of anything. Their rhetoric is really conservative though. I mean, if rhetoric meant anything, Cruz and Paul would win the biggest conservative award

Pablo said...

Basically, I plan on fighting back in whatever small way I can against the notion that the Conservatives In Mouth Only are actually conservative. The bottom line is that Christie has cut more government than Palin or Perry and certainly more government than the talkers in the senate and the talkers that try to sell you books and get you to listen to their radio program. I am done with the talk. We need real conservatives. And the only ones I see are Christie and his fellow GOP governors around the country.

Right Wingnut said...

Pablo,

You can't compare the budgets of different states, with different challenges and opportunities, and over different periods of time. Governors can't print money, which means they have no choice but to balance the budget. If we wanted to analyze things further, I'm sure we could find some Democrat Governors that meet your definition of "conservative."

I'll have to look into it further, but my understanding is that New Jersey is facing a potential $5 billion budget shortfall in 2014, and is still wrestling with an unemployment rate much higher than the national average. If I wanted to use those as a measure of conservatism, that would make Gov. Mark Dayton (D-MN) more conservative than Christie! Haha..

I've stated many times that I don't think Palin is running, and that I've pretty much moved on from the idea. That said, you'd be hard pressed to convince many people that Christie is more conservative than Palin......or any of the others you mentioned, for that matter. Good luck trying though.

Right Wingnut said...

Meanwhile...Alaska has been enjoyed healthy surpluses over the past several years, and has built a $14 billion rainy day fund.

Now, I can't fault Christie for not achieving that in his state. That would be comparing apples and oranges.

Right Wingnut said...

pablo,

According to the information you provided on another post, Christie has spent like a drunken sailor in comparison to Corzine. Corzine cut spending nearly $5 billion in FY2009. Does that mean Corzine is more conservative than Palin too? Because if we apply your logic, he's certainly more conservative than Christie! LOL

FY2008 - $33.47 billion - Corzine

FY2009 - $32.86 billion - Corzine

FY2010 - $28.99 billion - Corzine

FY2011 - $28.36 billion - Christie

FY2012 - $29.69 billion - Christie

FY2013 - $31.65 billion - Christie

FY2014 - $32.97 billion - Christie

http://www.rightspeak.net/2013/08/correction-to-earlier-post.html

Right Wingnut said...

Correction. Corzine cut nearly $5 billion in spending from 2008 - 2010

Right Wingnut said...

Governor Murkowski’s last budget FY2007: $11,697,400,000

http://omb.alaska.gov/ombfiles/08_budget/Enacted/FY2008_ConfComm_Less_Vetoes_Fiscal_Summary.pdf

Governor Palin’s last budget FY2010: $10,570,000,000

http://omb.alaska.gov/ombfiles/10_budget/bills/Budget_Press_Release_5-21-09.pdf

Total reduction in spending between 2007 and 2010: a whopping 9.5% or $1,127,400,000

Right Wingnut said...

Also....

FY07- Murkowski’s federal requests total: 63 projects @ $349,497,000

http://wayback.archive-it.org/1200/20090726150354/http:/gov.state.ak.us/omb/10_omb/budget/10%20PDFs/FFY07_Approp_Requests.pdf

FY10- Governor Palin’s federal requests total: 8 projects @ $69,100,000

http://web.archive.org/web/20100826002227/http://www.gov.state.ak.us/omb/10_omb/budget/10%20PDFs/FFY10_Approp_Requests.pdf

Right Wingnut said...

Correct for bad link in previous comment (FY10 federal requests)

http://wayback.archive-it.org/1200/20090726150356/http:/gov.state.ak.us/omb/10_omb/budget/10%20PDFs/FFY10_Approp_Requests.pdf

Right Wingnut said...

Standard & Poor’s raised Alaska’s credit rating from AA to AA+ in April, 2008:

“Our fiscal prudence is being recognized by the financial markets. It affirms our efforts to control government spending and live within our means,” Governor Palin said. “We have been working hard advocating for Alaska, both within the state and outside, and I am pleased to see it paying off.”

Moody’s upgraded Alaska’s credit rating to AAA in November 2010 and Standard & Poor’s upgraded Alaska to AAA too in January in large part due to Governor Palin’s policies as indicated below.

Each italicized bullet point is a point provided by Standard and Poor’s as an indicator for credit upgrade:

o “The state’s strong financial management and generally conservative forecasting”: during her tenure, Governor Palin cut spending 9.5% and reduced earmarks 80%.

o “The state’s financial flexibility, enhanced by the maintenance of large reserves derived from windfall oil revenues since fiscal year 2008”: Governor Palin’s oil tax reform plan implemented in FY2008 was a severance or production tax on oil companies—a tax they paid as a recompense for developing the Alaskan owned natural resources has helped create fiscal reserves for the state.

o “The state’s moderate debt burden”: During her tenure, Alaska’s overall debt decreased nearly more than 157 million dollars between FY2007 (her predecessor’s final budget year) and FY2010 (her final budget year), while debt outstanding increased at 4.2% annual rate (between FY 2007 and FY 2010) compared to the 6.8% annual rate of her predecessor (between FY2003 and FY2007).

o "An accumulation of multiple budget reserves equal to more than 200 percent of the general fund budget”: Due to legislation like ACES and the frugal budgeting of Governors Palin and Parnell, Alaska now has a 12 billion dollars in savings. During the VP campaign, Governor Palin was able to tout a more than $5 billion surplus.

http://conservatives4palin.com/2012/06/governor-palins-executive-accomplishments.html

Right Wingnut said...

Meanwhile, New Jersey's credit rating was recently downgraded by Standard & Poors.

http://www.northjersey.com/news/state/governor/Standard_and_Poors_downgrades_NJs_credit_outlook_to_negative.html

RomneyMan said...

Does RWN possess an obsessive personality?

Anonymous said...

No RM. He just likes to see himself type.
Ellie.