Let´s make an agreement. If the Conservatives In Mouth Only can´t say that they have cut more government than Chris Christie, then they can´t be considered more conservative than Chris Christie. Fair enough? If you can document that your favorite conservative has cut more government than Christie, then you can go nuts on the NJ governor.
Of course, that rules out Palin and Perry.
It also rules out Paul and Cruz, since they have never actually been in charge of anything. It also rules out the entire Conservative Media Complex. Talk is cheap. Well, it pays alot, but it doesn´t make our country better.
Until then, I am going to refer to Palin and Perry and the rest of the above mentioned as liberal RINOs. We need real conservatives, not a bunch of talkers and hypocrites.
Of course, that rules out Palin and Perry.
It also rules out Paul and Cruz, since they have never actually been in charge of anything. It also rules out the entire Conservative Media Complex. Talk is cheap. Well, it pays alot, but it doesn´t make our country better.
Until then, I am going to refer to Palin and Perry and the rest of the above mentioned as liberal RINOs. We need real conservatives, not a bunch of talkers and hypocrites.
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Although, I don't necessarily agree with you...hahaha...Sorry Pablo...I couldn't help my self.
feel free to remove.
I think I know who Pablo supports. Let me ask what he defines as "cutting government"? Is it reducing costs, regulations, or bodies occupying desks? Is that the ONLY criteria?
I don't know much about Christie? He's famous for being the governor of the state next door to the media center. Put NJ in the Rockies and you never would have heard of him. His endorsement of Obama during the campaign told me more than I needed to know. It just reaffirmed my belief that anyone who is along the I-95 corridor is a liberal. They don't know what it truly means to be a conservative.
Palin did get Alaska on the right track to solvency and even earned a credit rating increase, something Obama cannot claim.
pablo,
According to the information you provided on another post, Christie has spent like a drunken sailor in comparison to Corzine. Corzine cut spending nearly $5 billion in FY2009. Does that mean Corzine is more conservative than Palin too? Because if we apply your logic, he's certainly more conservative than Christie! LOL
FY2008 - $33.47 billion - Corzine
FY2009 - $32.86 billion - Corzine
FY2010 - $28.99 billion - Corzine
FY2011 - $28.36 billion - Christie
FY2012 - $29.69 billion - Christie
FY2013 - $31.65 billion - Christie
FY2014 - $32.97 billion - Christie
http://www.rightspeak.net/2013/08/correction-to-earlier-post.html
Correction. Corzine cut nearly $5 billion in spending from 2008 - 2010
Governor Murkowski’s last budget FY2007: $11,697,400,000
http://omb.alaska.gov/ombfiles/08_budget/Enacted/FY2008_ConfComm_Less_Vetoes_Fiscal_Summary.pdf
Governor Palin’s last budget FY2010: $10,570,000,000
http://omb.alaska.gov/ombfiles/10_budget/bills/Budget_Press_Release_5-21-09.pdf
Total reduction in spending between 2007 and 2010: a whopping 9.5% or $1,127,400,000
Also....
FY07- Murkowski’s federal requests total: 63 projects @ $349,497,000
http://wayback.archive-it.org/1200/20090726150354/http:/gov.state.ak.us/omb/10_omb/budget/10%20PDFs/FFY07_Approp_Requests.pdf
FY10- Governor Palin’s federal requests total: 8 projects @ $69,100,000
http://web.archive.org/web/20100826002227/http://www.gov.state.ak.us/omb/10_omb/budget/10%20PDFs/FFY10_Approp_Requests.pdf
Correction for bad link in previous comment (FY10 federal requests)
http://wayback.archive-it.org/1200/20090726150356/http:/gov.state.ak.us/omb/10_omb/budget/10%20PDFs/FFY10_Approp_Requests.pdf
Standard & Poor’s raised Alaska’s credit rating from AA to AA+ in April, 2008:
“Our fiscal prudence is being recognized by the financial markets. It affirms our efforts to control government spending and live within our means,” Governor Palin said. “We have been working hard advocating for Alaska, both within the state and outside, and I am pleased to see it paying off.”
Moody’s upgraded Alaska’s credit rating to AAA in November 2010 and Standard & Poor’s upgraded Alaska to AAA too in January in large part due to Governor Palin’s policies as indicated below.
Each italicized bullet point is a point provided by Standard and Poor’s as an indicator for credit upgrade:
o “The state’s strong financial management and generally conservative forecasting”: during her tenure, Governor Palin cut spending 9.5% and reduced earmarks 80%.
o “The state’s financial flexibility, enhanced by the maintenance of large reserves derived from windfall oil revenues since fiscal year 2008”: Governor Palin’s oil tax reform plan implemented in FY2008 was a severance or production tax on oil companies—a tax they paid as a recompense for developing the Alaskan owned natural resources has helped create fiscal reserves for the state.
o “The state’s moderate debt burden”: During her tenure, Alaska’s overall debt decreased nearly more than 157 million dollars between FY2007 (her predecessor’s final budget year) and FY2010 (her final budget year), while debt outstanding increased at 4.2% annual rate (between FY 2007 and FY 2010) compared to the 6.8% annual rate of her predecessor (between FY2003 and FY2007).
o "An accumulation of multiple budget reserves equal to more than 200 percent of the general fund budget”: Due to legislation like ACES and the frugal budgeting of Governors Palin and Parnell, Alaska now has a 12 billion dollars in savings. During the VP campaign, Governor Palin was able to tout a more than $5 billion surplus.
http://conservatives4palin.com/2012/06/governor-palins-executive-accomplishments.html
Meanwhile, New Jersey's credit rating was recently downgraded by Standard & Poors.
http://www.northjersey.com/news/state/governor/Standard_and_Poors_downgrades_NJs_credit_outlook_to_negative.html
That should be enough for now. Good luck with Christie.
According to USspending.com the Alaskan budget in 2010 was $14.5 Billion, not the $10.5 Billion that the Palin press release posted (at the time of the of signing of the bill). There are a lot of supplemental budgets in Alaska, so Palin may have have chosen not to include them in here press release. That is the crux of the matter. You posted a lot of links, but the only one that could refute what I said was the Palin press release. However, it contradicts with the link that I provided.
By the way, I have no doubt that Palin was a conservative in Alaska. I just get tired of people calling Christie a liberal, when he literally cut more government than Palin and Perry.
I would be glad to respond to the rest of what you posted but none of it has anything to do with how Christie vs. Palin in spending.
I also think it is funny how you said you cannot compare states and then what do you do? Compare states? Which is it?
"I just get tired of people calling Christie a liberal" Just like you get tired of calling something that quacks a duck or something that barks a dog. Sure Mr. Christie is not an outright liberal, but he ain't no Conservative.
Here's a link to Alaska's FY2011 budget which also shows total spending in FY 2010 at $10.57 million.
https://omb.alaska.gov/ombfiles/11_budget/PDFs/FiscalSummary_6-3-10.pdf
Wow, I'm just about as sick as I can be at the wars too, Pablo. There are NO pure conservatives, and EVERY single politician has high and low marks. We can twist anyone's record to suit our particular need at any given moment.
But have you noticed that all the people squawking are the hostage takers? We're not going anywhere until we stop this nonsense. Do democrats do this? No. They stick together like glue.
-Martha
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