Wednesday, August 17, 2011

Rick Perry: An accident waiting to happen

I'm not going to pussy foot around with my assessment of Rick Perry. He's got so much baggage in his background, that when the Democrats finish comparing his record to Obama's, Mitt Romney's Romneycare will look like an asset.

Saying all that, I'm also beginning to wonder about the mental capacity of those Republicans who have honestly looked at his record and still are convinced he's the best thing since the invention of iced tea.

I'm not going to go into ALL HIS PROBLEMS here so I'll just post some links for those of you who aren't falling for the Fox News hype over the past 3 or 4 days and are interested in reading some facts:


The following link is a collaboration between New Hampshire and Texas Tea Party organizations. They have compiled quite a list HERE of why Rick Perry would be wrong for America.

Now I'm no fan of Ben Bernanke (federal reserve) but the following statement by Perry says a lot about his judgment. This statement of his goes beyond a simple gaffe. If you look at Perry in the following video, you can see him hesitate before carefully choosing his words. I'm sure he's satisfying some of the saber rattlers with his statement, but I CAN PROMISE this kind of crap will not win a general election. What the Hell was he thinking?

I know I've said this quite a lot before, What is the point of winning the nomination if you can't win the general?




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40 comments:

Anonymous said...

I agree with you bos, but some are willing to overlook his faults just to have an alternative to romney candidate.

I can see the future debates now, perry talking about his texas job growth a million times, like bachmann talking about having raised 23 foster kids.

Anonymous said...

"But what the Texas governor said about the Federal Reserve chairman is the kind of blustering, unthinking comment that Perry’s critics expect of him. Why he would play to stereotype is hard to fathom. Or, perhaps he’s simply being himself. We’ll find out soon enough. In the meantime Perry ought to offer a retraction and apology — and then offer a serious intellectual critique of why he believes Ben Bernanke is pursuing injurious policies."

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2011/08/16/perry-bernanke-treason/

-Martha

Anonymous said...

I don't think Perry is capable of an intellectual critique of Ben Bernanke's policies.

-Martha

Anonymous said...

Bosman, you only scratched the surface. There's so much more!

I don't watch FOX, and haven't read too many conservative sites the last few days, so I don't know how much he's being propped up. Sounds like FOX is having another stupid attack.

I do think it's funny that people are already predicting Romney's demise.

-Martha

Anonymous said...

I never thought I could say this in a million years, but Perry makes Palin and Huck look tolerable.

-Martha

Anonymous said...

exactly...i am still amazed that so many that think romney is not conservative would be slobbering all over perry....give me a break! he is obama in a cow boy suit!

larry said...

Home run Bos!

Sometimes I wonder if the Republican Party has been infiltrated with those who could care less about beating Obaba but would be satisfied to just make a lot of noise.

Anonymous said...

I wonder WHO is backing Perry?? Sure, there's the Christian coalition guys that seem to have infiltrated some of the Tea Party people........who were originially started OVER TAXES/BIG GOVERNMENT, not social issues.

While Perry has some faux conservative values and uses religion to promote himself, there is something so unsettling about him with me.

This link opens up another possibility of who could be helping Perry http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7LFRlvkNz0U

craigs said...

I read some comments this morning from political scientists in an OP-ED that were truly scary, about Perry and the extreme right. The analogy was about an election I remember well......1972, when the anti- war left was so furious about Viet Nam that they controlled the Democratic Party and nominated
George McGovern. McGovern was so far out of touch with the voters that Nixon won every state but S. Dakota.
This happens if you pay too much attention to fervent ideology and less attention to the practical realities of effective governing . Look at the polls today about the Tea party and the extreme right. Lots of great people , just like McGovern's supporters....but out of touch with the main stream.
Rick Perry and Michelle Bachmann could well duplicate George McGovern. The parallels are frightening

CraigS

Joe said...

Michelle Malkin
Rick Perry's Bad Medicine
http://townhall.com/columnists/michellemalkin/2011/08/17/rick_perrys_bad_medicine

Ohio JOE said...

Well, at least Mr. Perry has the balls to take on the Fed unlike the coward from MA who is content with hyper-inflation. Mr. Perry is not perfect, but at least he is the first Male candidate with a pair to enter the race. It is also funny to watch The Secular extremists and the Moderate for after a guy who is not even all that Conservative. Ya gotta love the humor in it all.

Joe said...

Ohio Joe - you want funny to watch? Rent a movie. I want someone that can help turn this country around.

Joe said...

Perry Points to ‘Idiotic’ U.S. Rule That Doesn’t Exist. - http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2011/08/16/perry-points-to-idiotic-u-s-rule-that-doesnt-exist/?mod=WSJBlog

Anonymous said...

CraigS, my only problem with your comment is the assertion that the Tea Party is a representation of the Far Right. I understand that perception is attempting to be sold that way and I am sure there are Far Right members of the Tea Party movement but the basic point of the movement is not Far Right in ideology and we shouldn't continue to allow that narrative to be spread amongst members of our own party.

jerseyrepublican

Ohio JOE said...

"I want someone that can help turn this country around." Oh no you do not. You have no clue about the economic problems that we face. You are either ignorant or not serious. Take your pick.

Ohio JOE said...

Well said Jersey, but unfortunately, in Craig's world, all non-Romney candidates are Far Right.

Anonymous said...

An OJ is a GeniASS

Joe said...

Why Rick Perry Is Way Worse Than George W. Bush - http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/national-affairs/why-rick-perry-is-way-worse-than-george-w-bush-20110816

Joe said...

Ohio Joe - personal attacks with no facts to back it up? You must be desperate...

Anonymous said...

Oj, what doesn't make sense is that a good portion of Romney supporters are probably the further to the right than any supporter of any other camp.

Of course I have decided to make a truce with the Romney supporters, except for a few, due to our common obstacle...Perry. I would include Bachmann as an obstacle except for the fact that she is not one...she has weak support. If/when Palin enters, the polls have shown that Bachmann will lose nearly half her support and Palin will push her back to the 2nd Tier where she belongs.

jerseyrepublican

Anonymous said...

I really can't take you seriously OJ. Haven't for a couple of years now. I do take RW, JR, and AJR seriously. But you flew over a cuckoo's nest.

BOSMAN said...

Rick Perry: Want to hate a law? Make one up.

Ohio JOE said...

"personal attacks with no facts to back it up?" Yes, you Romneyites have taught me well.

"But you flew over a cuckoo's nest." Yes you are correct, those of us who believe in fiscal responsibility and not printing money like popcorn have flew over the cuckoo's nest.

craigs said...

OJ and JR

Long before you were born, I was county chairman for Barry Goldwater in 1964 and ran against another B.S artist from Texas.
In 1968, I had the same position for Dick Nixon, running against a left wing zeolet named george McGovern. That was a FAF FAR easy job than 1966. I have a nice letter from Dick Nixon. In 1964, we lost 49 states. In 1972, we won 49 states. The first time, we ran from a far right position. In 1972, we ran against a far left position.So, I am a pragmatic conservative
That's my part of the world.....the part that wants to win in 2012, not just " feel good."
Get real guys. It doesn't matter what part of the spectrum the tea party occupies. I'm sure it is broad based from moderate center to right wing whacko. The point is what the " Center " thinks it is next year. And that is determined by both the media and the candidate.
Remember " Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice ? We all loved that line and it cost us 49 states.
We are just NOT going to win with Bachmann or Perry or Palin, but we'll feel great. Like the last guest on the Titanic who gets to finally drink the great Champagne.
We can win with Romney. We could have won with Pawlenty. We might win with Cain or Gingrich or even Rudy. But we are not going to win with folks who are "portrayed " as extremists and then say things like Perry to prove the point

CraigS

Anonymous said...

Great point, Craig.

Generally, there's not really that much daylight between our candidates on the issues. The differences come in demeanor. We can't afford the firebrands because they do not attract the voters we need to win. It's simple math.

-Martha

Anonymous said...

Craig,

Experience is a hard teacher, isn't it? I also have become more pragmatic about politics, which is why I can support a pragmatist for President. Mitt may not be a strict idealogue, but he is a problem solver, and which he has proven over and over again. We certainly have some problems that need solving. Go Mitt!

Perry cannot win over new voters with accusations of treason against the Fed chair. Rove apparently blasted Perry yesterday for his comments about the Fed.

AZ

Anonymous said...

CraigS, I don't say this enough: I really value your experience, perspective, and the facts you present. I consider your posts to be invaluable. Thanks.

Ohio JOE said...

"Long before you were born," Haha, and you for a fact that I was born yesterday? More to the point, you assume that all the non-Romney candidates are Right Wing extremists. I wish they were. Even Mrs. Palin is barely Right Wing enough. Creating job (big or small) is not Right Wing extremism. Wanting cuts in social Program and balancing the budget is not Right Wing extremism. Recognizing that there is a GOD is not Right Wing extremism. Being against the stimulus, bail-outs, HC mandates and run away inflation is not Right Wing extremism.

In short, I realize that I will have to settle for somebody to the Left of myself. However, if you think that I among other will settle for any Centrist, it ain't happening.

BTW, I do not know how long you have been a chairman for, but I imagine that I was still a Centrists myself the day you retired from your duties of chairmanship. I have since wised up a little and realized that Centrism does not create jobs or wealth or even healthy citizens.

craigs said...

To add a slight correction, the McGovern run was in 1972 and McGovern made it easy ...... Even with Nixon,s unfavorables.
I 1968, we ran against Humphrey and it was much harder....because H ubert moved toward the center and painted n
Nixon as an extremist

CraigS

craigs said...

OJ

No, I assume you are a pretty mature guy.......but Im pretty old.....so it's a good guess that these event pre date you a bit.
but, if not, tell me about your involvement, when conservatism was young and enthusiastic
CraigS

craigs said...

OJ

Having created a few jobs myself in 35 years of Fortune 100 management, I can tell you the bottom line. It is adding value. No value, no sale. No sale, no income. No income, no job........and the more value, the better pay and the higher income.
Exactly how do you plan to add high paying jobs in a global economy?
Perrys solution is government jobs , I.e., no added value, but no competitors......or McDonalds. Slight added value , little competitive advantage, no international competitors and little comparable income.
So, let,s discuss a job that pays 50 an hour plus benefits. Exactly what added value do you have to have to compete with the guy in India who pays $10 an hour for the same product with the same added value. answer.....5 times as much value in the global competitive market. So........with no business experience, Perry and Bachmann are going to create how many $50 an hour jobs ?

CraigS

Ohio JOE said...

Well, yes, I admit that I am not a Senior and yes, I was not born when you first assumed your chairmanship. On the other hand I was alive (although not here) when Mr. Nixon was President, so it was not exactly 'LONG before I was born.'

Was I involved in politics back them? No you are correct, I was not. However, I was involved with various political parties over the past few decades or so. To be clear, I do not claim that my involement in politics is anywhere near as much as yours. However, my point was that it was that I have been alive a little longer than was suggested.

Ohio JOE said...

"with no business experience, Perry and Bachmann are going to create how many $50 an hour jobs ?" Not to be smart, but I truly hope that they do not create very many $50 an hour jobs. What I do hope is that they help create and economic climate whereby citizens can gain private sector employment.

Yes, unfortuately, Mr. Perry did create some government jobs, which is why in part he is not the absolute best candidate.

Revolution 2012 said...

Great resource of information Bos.

Those that care about the facts will read up on Perry.

If you walk and talk like a duck, you must be a duck.

Anonymous said...

Well when will the queen enter the race so she can provide the wealth of experience and knowledge to the race? LOL...watching paint dry would be alot more exciting.

OJ your lovefest with the queen is evident, most of her hardcore supporters are so obsessed with her that they overlook the fact that she has nothing, not record, not brains, not anything but sex appeal to bring to the white house. You old farts need to stick to your wives and end going gaga over a quitter.

Anonymous said...

or look forward to the playboy edition of levi johnston's sister.

Ohio JOE said...

It is funny how the Romneyite trolls post under Anonymous.

Anonymous said...

OJ, I didn't see anything in the Troll's post that mentions anything about Romney; therefore, it is unfair to label this particular troll as a "Romneyite." I would suggest from the Troll's postings that (s)he is an anti-Palinite.

And, no, trolling is not okay, and I don't approve of what was written by the Anon Troll.

AZ

Ohio JOE said...

Well AZ, I respectfully feel sorry for you because you have grown to be a minority within your camp. Yes, on the one hand it is unfair of me to paint all Romneyites with the same brush especially because you and a few other do not fit the mold, but I am just so fed up with the nuttiness from your side, that I now such assume that it comes from your side. Perhaps they are liberal trouble makers, but more and more, your camp uses liberal talking points that it is getting difficult to tell the difference.

When I heat from your side:
'inflation does not matter'
'ideology does not matter'
and so on and so on, I just tune out the good things that Mr. Romney has been saying because I fear he is surrounded by a lunatic brigade. I just pray that either these clowns are joking around and do not believe their liberal talking points or that Mr. Romney inner circle are not nearly as nutty as these.

Right Wingnut said...

OJ,

The same can be said about Perry supporters. HPV vaccine mandates don't matter...his signing of the DREAM Act doesn't matter...his...huge debt and deficit doesn't matter...his crony capitalism doesn't matter...

Go check out some of the recent posts at Redstate. Be sure to grab a barf bag first.