Three short years ago, Glenn Beck couldn't get enough "Chris Christie Porn."
...But even more than that, Beck wonders if Christie might be the next George Washington.Meanwhile, many of us were watching his liberal record unfold.....
Better late than never, Glenn.
Next time, look at a politician's record before anointing them the "next George Washington." Now, you look like a fool.
....“Chris Christie is a fat nightmare. He is a nightmare,” Beck declared to TheBlaze’s S.E. Cupp, guest-hosting for Morgan, in an interview set to air Friday
Cupp said the Republican Christie is “almost certainly” going to run for president in 2016 and is currently beating Hillary Clinton in a theoretical match-up.
“Don’t care, don’t care, don’t care,” Beck said. “He’s not a conservative. He’s a progressive.”
He named Christie’s stances on global warming, unions and gun control.
“I’m done playing the game of, ‘Well, that means if we don’t vote for that guy, we’re gonna get this guy,’” Beck said. “We played that with John McCain. We played that with Mitt Romney.”...
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This isn't vetting.
..and Beck is as chubby as ever, by the way.
Cimbri, I provided not one....not two....but THREE links that provide information to Christie's record (not including the link to the Beck interview) along with a photo to remind everyone of his love fest with Obama one week before the 2012 presidential election. What you close to do with the information is up to you.
Christie isn't perfect, but then neither is anyone else. I don't like him at all. I think he's been way over-rated. I think he has some serious vulnerabilities. And the way he threw Romney under the bus at the last minute was shameless, and helped Obama get re-elected. There can be no doubt about that.
Problem is, the rest of the field is very weak. I personally like Ryan, but I don't know if he has the chops to win a primary. Most of the people on the list don't have the chops. Cruz is too radioactive, divisive and unlikable. Plus, very inexperienced and responsible for the shut-down debacle. Paul is also too inexperienced and not mainstream enough--he still has some of his dad's kooky and wrong-headed kind of thinking on certain issues. Walker just seems to lack that certain something, plus I don't like all of the unnecessary jabs he takes at Romney all the time. Bad judgment, to me. Kasich and Pence, uh no. Martinez not ready for prime time, but maybe could be.
I don't know. We are in a world of hurt because all the GOP is really good at is tearing each candidate down until they are unelectable.
-Martha
I didn't mean to, but I left Rubio out. I guess that sums up where his momentum is at the moment. The dazzle has kind of fizzled.
-Martha
RW, I looked at some of your links. They are less than objective, lol. But I admit Christie has some chinks.
-Mratha
Also of note here.....Beck took a shot at Romney in this interview, who he also called "the next George Washington." Lol. Beck is a fraud.
I'll tell you what though. Anyone who thinks Cruz could best Christie in a primary doesn't understand the GOP electorate, and hasn't been watching the last two primaries very closely. If forced to choose between the two candidates, most Republicans would go with Christie, simply because that has been the rule time and again--the more mainstream candidate wins. That's the truth about GOP voters. Not saying I like it, or that I support Christie--at all.
-Martha
If you want the truth, you need to read "less than objective" sources, and follow up with research. You generally won't get the conservative viewpoint from Christie 's home town paper.
Beck is a nutjob. A sincere one, but still . . .
-Martha
Martha,
Hey, sorry about the "B" word thing the other day. That was probably over the line.
RW, yes we need to do our research. But what I have learned over the past 7 years is that people who write about candidates records always have an agenda, and can spin info anyway they want, and leave out a lot of important context. And you know that as well as I do, considering what has been written over the years about Sarah Palin. You can make the best person into the devil without too much effort. We are not going to ever have a perfect candidate. Romney came very close.
-Martha
RW, no problem.
-Martha
Look at what happened to Romney. From what I understand, and this was never really known among Republicans, (Bosman can correct me if I am wrong) is that Romney faced bad options when it came to healthcare in Mass. He took the least bad option. As far as I remember, the heavily dem legislature was hell-bent on single-payer, and that is where Mass was headed-without a doubt. What happened is the best outcome that was possible. That is why you will never see him regret it, nor heartily endorse it. He admits it was not perfect, and that there are changes he would have made had he been able to. But he was a realist, and got the best he could considering circumstances. That is why he continues to say that states need to do what is best for their state, and to experiment with solutions.
People with an agenda, outside of Mass who did not understand the details, turned Romney into the devil on healthcare. To the point that he was weakened politically going into the general. That was a huge mistake for the party because from the get-go we all knew he would win the nomination based simply on the weak field.
-Martha
This translates to Christie. He is the gov of a severely blue state. He's going to do things that the rest of us don't like. But at least we HAVE a Republican governor in a blue state! That is something! So I'm not going to tear Christie apart from limb to limb over his record. He may end up the nominee. The pundits have the luxury of sitting up on their pedestals and never facing the consequences of their irresponsible efforts to hurt Republicans. They just continue to make more money, and become more ensconced in their roles as destroyers.
-Martha
But you don't have a problem tearing apart others who "might be the nominee. "
You really need to research election history. It is almost impossible to be elected president while losing your home state. No way would Christie win New Jersey. Nominating a blue state governor may seem like a good idea to some, but it would almost certainly lead to another embarrassing defeat. Why? Because the liberal policies enacted by the blue state Republican alienate conservatives which in turn depresses turnout. You can argue that they had to support liberal policies in a liberal state to get anything done. Doesn't matter. The end result is still the same.
RW, I'm not going to tear anyone apart. I've said as many negative things about Christie as I have Cruz. I just think the reality is that Cruz is a real real long shot to win the nomination based on history. I don't think we have any good options on the list. So the best thing that could happen is that our pundits chill out and stop attacking every one of them. We are going to nominate someone, and we'd better make sure he's not torn to shreds before the primary is over. Alas, what I want is impossible.
-Martha
That may sound great in theory, but that's not how the nominating process works. It will be ugly, as it has since the founding of our country. In fact, it was much, much worse at one point in time. I expect it will be no different on the Democrat side.
Nobody knows who the nominee will be. You certainly can't argue that Cruz doesn't have a better shot than most....Santorum, Perry, King, Jindal. And only objective observer would concede that he's got as good of a shot as Paul, Rubio, Christie, Ryan. It's wide open IMO. Christie has some serious liabilities to overcome. I think he will be a huge bust.
Great post RW. I hope you are correct. Our country cannot afford Mr. Christie.
I am objective, RW. I have no horse in the race at all. Every single one of them have an equal shot to convince me, and so far Cruz stands out to me as unelectable simply due to persona and tactics. He may very well be a fine man, and might make a good president if elected. But I can't get past his arrogant attitude. He is very unlikable and has made a habit of tearing down other Republicans. Christie and Rand are also doing that way way too early. I just don't like the fact that Cruz wants everyone to believe he's the only pure guy, with all the right motives. That simply isn't true, and it doesn't serve us well.
-Martha
OJ, we can't afford to lose 2014 or 16. That has to be the over-riding factor. We must choose the most electable candidates and get behind them. Sometimes, that will be the best conservative, but sometimes it won't. That's just a fact.
-Martha
Martha is not far off the mark with her comments in this thread in fairness.
Beck and these other clowns tell the right whatever they want to hear, based on the latest narrative. It's tear down the frontrunner time again in the Republican Party so that's what we will get for the next few years.
Cruz and the other guys have not shown me any ability to break through in FL, VA, OH, et al. This is guesswork right now, but Christie can win those states. The conservatives just have to decide whether or not to throw another election. Up to them and I'm not losing any sleep over it, either way. If they want Hillary, then they will get her.
Apparently, Texas voters never got the memo that Ted Cruz is "UNLIKABLE" -
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/headlines/20120801-ted-cruz-shocks-texas-political-establishment-crushes-david-dewhurst.ece
http://austin.culturemap.com/news/life/08-01-12-00-09-cruz-defeats-gop-stalwart-dewhurst-in-watershed-victory-for-tea-party/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2012/11/28/the-biggest-upset-of-2012/
It's amazing that a guy so "unlikable" can be so POPULAR on election day. Absolutely amazing.
Cimbri - How many moderate, centrist, and RINO presidential candidates have to get CRUSHED in November before you accept the fact that they are NOT electable?
lol at cruz controls arguments and links.
Hillary is no Dewhurst. Neither are a few of the GOP *stars* either.
And note Dewhurst was, with all respect to him, the kind that made Romney look like he had OB charisma.
RM - Well, you're right about ONE thing - Hillary is no Dewhurst. She's got TONS OF BAGGAGE & SKELETONS IN HER CLOSET that Dewhurst never had. That's for damn sure.
I'm guessing Dewhurst is more respected in Texas than Hillary is. Keep in mind this guy has been elected many times to statewide office. He's the sitting Lt. Gov., who in TX, has more power than the Gov. In many ways, because he is the one who decides which legislation gets debated and voted on. He clearly isn't a great debater, but I doubt many watched it anyway. Cruz beat him purely on grass roots support.
Judging by her recent performances, Hillary's debating skills need a lot of work.
"What DIFFERENCE does it make!!!" ain't gonna cut it against Ted Cruz.
Cruz will chew her up and spit her out, just like he did to David Dewhurst & Paul Sadler in Texas, just like he did to opponents in college debating competition, and just like he did to dozens of opposing lawyers in the highest courts in the land.
"Cruz and the other guys have not shown me any ability to break through in FL, VA, OH, et al." We were told Mr. Romney would win those states and he did not. I doubt in the end that Mr. Christie could win those states.
I don't like Chris Christie, a pseudo Republican any more than I like Glenn Beck a pseudo-Christian (AKA demonically deceived Mormon).
- Beck, along with the likes of pseudo-Christian Rick Warren promote unity between those who have faith in the True God as revealed in His Word, and those deceived by Satan, into believing in a demonically created (re: demonic revelation to their prophet Muhammad) false god.
- I had watched Glenn Beck for years, I felt he was giving the most information and news of all the news sources. Then several months ago even a year ago, I noticed a gradual then steamrolling change to universalism and a one world religion, even dis-respecting our Lord. It was hard to watch his transformation, but I quit watching him a few months back, I could no longer tolerate his version of the truth.
- You can see some of Beck's promotion of Allah and a universal on-world-religion on this link:
http://shoebat.com/2013/06/10/glenn-beck-converts-to-chrislam/
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