Apparently, Paul Ryan is at odds with the rest of the House GOP leadership, who have maintained that there will not be a House vote on an amnesty bill before the end of the year. He has even gone as far as to support a conference committee with the Senate "Gang of Eight" bill.
I don't take issue with the GOP making a concerted effort to seek votes in the minority communities. What I find perplexing is that they continue to cite lack of support from Hispanics as the primary reason Romney/Ryan lost the election, despite evidence that millions of white voters chose, for whatever reason, to stay home. Ryan is clearly in need of a reality check.
After failing to turn out the base as Mitt Romney’s Vice Presidential pick in the 2012 elections, House Budget Committee chairman Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) told the Des Moines Register in Iowa that he thinks the GOP should focus on going into minority communities to seek votes.
“Go into inner cities, go into minority communities,” Ryan said in an interview with the state paper. “Go into communities that have not seen or heard from Republicans in a long time.” Ryan was in Iowa on Saturday for a fundraiser and birthday event for the state's GOP Gov. Terry Branstad.
Ryan and Romney lost the presidential election last year by failing to turn out the GOP base. As Byron York pointed out in the Washington Examiner in May of this year, six months after the election, the GOP duo would have needed to get 73 percent of the Hispanic vote to have won the election by solely focusing on Hispanics--when Republicans have not, at any point in history, been able to even break 45 percent of the Hispanic vote. George W. Bush got 44 percent of the Hispanic vote in 2004, the highest a Republican has ever gotten in a nationwide election.
“The most serious of those problems was that Romney was not able to connect with white voters who were so turned off by the campaign that they abandoned the GOP and in many cases stayed away from the polls altogether,” York wrote. “Recent reports suggest as many as 5 million white voters simply stayed home on Election Day. If they had voted at the same rate they did in 2004, even with the demographic changes since then, Romney would have won. Likewise, the white vote is so large that an improvement of 4 points -- going from 60 percent to 64 percent of those whites who did vote -- would have won the race for Romney.”.......
........Ryan is at odds with the entire rest of the House GOP leadership--and the GOP base--when it comes to immigration legislation. House Minority Whip Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) has publicly promised there will be no immigration legislation voted on in the House of Representatives for the rest of 2013, something Ryan does not agree with as evidenced by this interview he did with the Des Moines paper. McCarthy, House Majority Leader Rep. Eric Cantor (R-VA), House Speaker John Boehner, House Judiciary Committee chairman Rep. Bob Goodlatte (R-VA) and scores of other Republicans and conservatives have publicly come out in opposition to ever going to a conference committee with the Senate “Gang of Eight” immigration bill. Ryan is on record as being supportive of a conference committee, and refused to join the rest of House Republicans save for a few outliers who also support amnesty in denouncing any effort to save the Senate bill via conference after Speaker Boehner publicly promised last week there would never be a conference.......
Read it all here
If you like what you see, please "Like" us on Facebook either here or here. Please follow us on Twitter here.
34 comments:
In a word: Appalling
And there's Bosman's gem from y'day:
"He's letting them think he's holding the door open.
If you BOTHER to check..he only brings immigration up when asked..He's not pushing it...There's a difference between being open to it and ACTUALLY ADVOCATING IT."
Indeed.
hahahaha....
RWN..If you like Cruz as you say...THE BEST THING that could happen for Cruz AND THE WORSE THING that could happen for Christie is RYAN RUNNING in 2016....THINK-ABOUT-IT..
Bos,
Probably so, but meanwhile we can't have Ryan pushing 30 new million Dem voters on us before we get to that point. Agreed?
Ryan is just telling those he's trying to appeal to what they want to hear.
HE KNOWS the bill is going no where. So why not let those that want it to 'think' I'm on their side? BRILLIANT move on his part.
Christie's support will begin to deflate if Ryan stays in the news....and HE WILL.
As Christie's poll numbers go down..The Playing field evens off.
NO MORE RUNAWAY Christie talk.
Ryan is to Christie as Rand Paul is to Cruz when it comes to support.
I'm not as convinced as you are that it's dead. Furthermore, I have a hard time believing Ryan would take that big of a gamble.
RW - Might have been better to link to the actual article, rather than Brietbart interpretation, lol.
I've been hearing over and over that Ryan is pushing amnesty, but when you get down to real facts, he is doing no such thing. As the real article notes, Ryan was not for the senate bill on immigration. And he has never once said he favors amnesty for illegals. NEVER.
He favors immigration reform. He said we should do it before the end of the year. I disagree with that. We shouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole right now. He favors going into minority communities and trying to win voters. (As noted by Byron York in your link, even if Romney/Ryan got the high water mark that Bush had of 44% hispanics, they would have still lost BUT, we do need to at least try to gain some of these voters.)
So, until proven otherwise, I think people should stop putting words into Paul Ryan's mouth about amnesty.
-Martha
Plus, your headline is a flat out lie. I would think your credibility mattered a little bit more to you.
Come on RW, you're better than that! ha ha.
-Martha
Oh where to begin. This is a PITA on an iPhone, but I think it would first be helpful if you would look up the definition of "amnesty."
"To grant a pardon to a group of people."
Forcing them to jump through a few hoops may make it more palatable to you, but the end result is the same.
Secondly, there are several links in the Breitbart piece. The 2nd one discuses his push for amnesty in the Des Moines Registry article.
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20131113/NEWS09/311130050/0/NEWS/?odyssey=nav%7Chead
There are two Des Moines Registry articles linked. Both discuss the same interview.
Furthermore, another link references an article from as recent as Oct 25th, stating that Ryan and Rep Mario Diaz Balart (D) are co-writing an amnesty bill.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/10/25/Paul-Ryan-writing-bill-legalizing-all-America-s-illegal-aliens
There's far more evidence to back up the assertion that Paul Ryan is at the tip of the spear in the push to get this done, as you indicated in your comment, before the end of the year.
And I agree with you that they shouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole. I'm sure you have valid reasons for that line of thinking, as do I.
RW, show me one single Ryan quote that says he want to legalize illegals. He has NEVER said that. He says we need to fix immigration. Big difference. I don't think you or anyone should assume he means to merely legalize.
Yes, I think GOP would be really really utterly stupid to get Obamacare off the front page, and throw Obama a lifeline. That is my main reason. The second reason is that no immigration reform should be passed while Obama is president because you can't trust him, and it just gives an opening to alter whatever good reform is passed, or pick and choose what to enforce. Immigration reform is fraught with peril! For Ryan to say, if he is serious (As Bosman suggested he may not be) that we need it before the end of the year, is troubling. I admit. But I'm not worried about it. It's not happening.
-Martha
That's fine. I know where you stand on amnesty, and I was just looking for a sliver of a concession. That's good enough for now. Thanks.
Now come on, Martha oozes credibility. After all recall the words "Romney made the right choice in Paul Ryan and he remains my number one choice right now for 2016."
With the Mormons, it'll be a case of:
a) If the candidate is Mormon, then all is fine and/or
b) If a Mormon made the decision, then the decision made by the Mormon will be correct.
Romney man, that's just Bull and you know it. Lee is LDS, and I think he's a jerk and will NOT be supporting him in 2014 when he's up for re election. Reid is Mormon,a and I don't support him either. How a about you put your bigot hat away, and join the real world? Mormons exist. Deal with it. Bigot.
Well.... That begs the question, why is Mike Lee a "jerk?"
It seems anyone in the right who fights the radical leftist agenda of Obama and Reid are labeled "jerks" by many people who should cheering them on. Sick of it.
By the way, Lee's term isn't up in 2014
I'd like to make a point that had it not been for the defund OCare efforts and Obama/Reid engineered shutdown, they probably would have already passed an amnesty bill.
RW, nah, they wouldn't have. Not a chance. Had nothing to do with Cruz or Lee, and everything to do with Obamacare crashing. Plus, the fact that Obama/Reid were so rotten about the shutdown made it unlikely the GOP would deal with them on immigration. Plus plus, the house has been saying all along, that immigration is NOT a done deal--not by any stretch.
-Martha
Boehner, shortly before the defund fight, called immigration his #1 priority for 2013.
The defund battle and Obama Reid shutdown, made the prospect of working with Democrats on immigration far less palatable for House Republicans. You know it's true.
Link?
-Martha
STEPHANOPOULOS: Bottom line, what's the most important thing you'll get done this year?
BOEHNER: I think-- immigration reform-- is probably at the top of that list.
STEPHANOPOULOS: Signed into law?
BOEHNER: I think by the end of the year, we could have a bill. Now, I don't know how much-- traffic-- that this-- will bear. This is a-- this is a big bill. And I'm tryin'-- people tryin' to do an awful lot of things. But I think-- we've got a serious problem with our legal immigration-- system. We clearly have a problem with illegal immigration. We got a problem with border security, and our ability to enforce the law today. So when you start to look at tryin' to address all of that, it's a big challenge.
STEPHANOPOULOS: But one that passes the House, passes the Senate, signed by the president--
BOEHNER: Yeah. No question.
STEPHANOPOULOS: Speaker, good luck.
BOEHNER: Thank you. I'll need it.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/transcript-exclusive-interview-house-speaker-john-boehner-nsa/story?id=19370792&page=6
Thanks, but that was June 11, so not all that relevant.
And still I doubt the sincerity of it anyway. But now, that ship has sailed.
-Martha
Actually, I think Ryan is trying to push through immigration "reform". Not to help the illegals, that's a sideline. Business has been demanding an increase in H1B visas for many years. They are going to let people who have graduated from American colleges to stay and work, plus more H1Bs, etc. We stopped this when Bush was in office and now here we go again. The illegal and poor Mexicans are the only ones I want to help. They provide a lot of grease to the economy to keep it rolling. We already have enough technical graduates to fill engineering jobs in the US.
Martha, it's plenty relevant because he said it when immigration was the main issue of the day. I saw the interview when it aired, and I can assure you he meant it. Surprised he didn't cry.
I don't even respond to your comments anymore, Cimbri, as they've become so far out there, it's just not worth the effort.
Nothing that complicated about my post. Business is desperate for more H1B visas etc. But that's fine. I won't waste my time either.
"The illegal and poor Mexicans are the only ones I want to help."
You sound like a freaking lib with comments like that.
I didn't think cimbri's comment was far out there at all. I thought it was relevant info.
-Martha
Our close friends who LEGALLY immigrated here from England have finally got their green cards after 11 years or so. My African friend is a citizen after 5 years. I don't know if that is because she had a sponsor who was a relative or because she comes from a poor country, or a little of both. It is my understanding that we already give preference to those who are from poorer areas of the world in immigration matters. As sorry as I may be for those from poor countries, surely a more equitable immigration policy would be better for America. My African friend needs gov't programs like medicare. My British friends work and DO NOT RECEIVE GOV'T ASSISTANCE. Having a properly balanced system that brings in people that help pay for the poor people we bring in makes sense, which is why it will never be the law of the land.
Oh, by the way, my African friend votes democrat. My British friends--staunch conservatives. Too bad they can't vote, yet....
AZ
Post a Comment