Saturday, September 10, 2011

The Romney campaign differentiates him from Perry in Florida

H/T Darwin

The Mitt Romney campaign has wasted little time to differentiate it's candidate from Rick Perry on the issue of Social Security:

Mitt Romney didn’t wait long to begin his attack on Rick Perry over Social Security—his campaign is doing door-to-door distribution of a flier attacking Perry on the issue.

The flier, which a campaign spokesman said is being left at the doors of Florida GOP primary voters, portrays the GOP primary as a two-candidate race—“Two candidates. Only one will protect what’s important to you,” is the headline.
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Anonymous said...


Anonymous said...

I have to add that I haven't seen a look like that on Perry's face in small photo on the top of the post since Jethro on the Beverly Hillbillies.

Right Wingnut said...

Perry didn't explain his position very well at all, but quoting the Huffington Post to attack your opponent in a GOP primary is dirty politics. Par for the course for Mitt.

He never said he wanted to kill Social Security.

This is disgusting, low ball politics.

Anonymous said...

Whatever RW.

Go get 'em Mitt.

craigs said...

The flyer has references at the bottom :

Rick perry believes Social Security is a failure...
Fed Up pg 62

That's what he said. Read it.

Rick Perry believes Social Security is Unconstitutional.....
Fed Up pg 50

That's what he said. Read it.

Rick Perry does not believe Social Security should exist.

MSNBC " Morning with Joe "

Check out the transcript.

He also said Social Security is
" by far the best example" of a program violently tossing aside any respect for our founding principles."
Fed 48
That's what he said. Read it.

Perry is a non stop gift that keeps on giving. We haven't even begun to mine the 17th amendment where he wants to take the vote for Senator back from the voters and give it back to the legislature...or his views on immigration, amnesty for illegal aliens, the Dream Act, the no need for a fence on the border, the business pressure to allow low wage earning illegals into Texas, etc. , etc.
Guy is a non stop piece of work


Joe said...

In Rick Perry's Texas, Firefighters Forced To Pay For Gear, Engine Fuel -

Right Wingnut said...

I guess many Romney supporters are OK with Mitt's campaign lying about something Perry never said....

Right Wingnut said...


Please point to the source for Perry saying he wants to "kill Social Security."

Right Wingnut said...

Perry Campaign: Remember When Romney Compared Social Security to a Criminal Enterprise?

The Perry campaign blasts out a pretty clean hit on Mitt Romney:

Last night, Romney said, “Under no circumstances would I ever say, by any measure, it’s a failure. It is working for millions of Americans.”

However, in his book “No Apology: The Case For American Greatness”, which was published just last year, Romney compared those managing Social Security to criminals, saying:

“Let’s look at what would happen if someone in the private sector did a similar thing. Suppose two grandparents created a trust fund, appointed a bank as trustee, and instructed the bank to invest the proceeds of the trust fund so as to provide for their grandchildren’s education. Suppose further that the bank used the proceeds for its own purposes, so that when the grandchildren turned eighteen, there was no money for them to go to college. What would happen to the bankers responsible for misusing the money? They would go to jail. But what has happened to the people responsible for the looming bankruptcy of Social Security? They keep returning to Congress every two years.”


Right Wingnut said...

In other words, Romney wants members of congress thrown in jail.

Anonymous said...

RW, you are confusing two completely different issues.

Perry called SS criminal operation by its very existence -- its concept as a "Ponzi scheme". He has said nothing about fixing it because, in his mind, the very concept of SS is inherently flawed.

Romney is calling out those people who have breached the trust of the American people having raided and misappropriated the money in the SS trust fund.

If you cannot see the difference between what the two are saying, I seriously question your intelligence. Not to be rude, but you are being completely and intellectually dishonest here.


Right Wingnut said...


Romney made quite a leap by stating Perry wants to eliminate Social Security.

Since Romney compared the actions of Congress to criminal activity, is he suggesting they be sent to prison?

Right Wingnut said...

As you know, I don't have a dog in this fight right now, but I sure am looking forward to Monday's debate! LOL

Anonymous said...

Two different things RW:

If Congress did misappropriate the money in SS -- then they should be held accountable and sent to prison for doing so.

Perry, on the other hand, would be calling those who CREATED SS to be sent to prison - for creating a "Ponzi scheme".

See the difference?

Anonymous said...

BTW, I don't think Susanna Martinez will be endorsing Rick Perry.

Right Wingnut said...

Anon @ 11:08:

Then I expect Mitt to call for indictments of those members of congress...otherwise the words in his book are nothing but hot air.

Anonymous said...

RW, your an idiot. Keep trying, too bad your dog is too chicken shit to even decide if she wants to enter the fight.

Anonymous said...

The one that needs to go to jail is our current President for making the mess this country's in almost impossible to get out of. We need an engine mechanic to get us out of this mess not a driver.

Right Wingnut said...

Anon @ 12:26,

You're, not your. I learned that in first grade.

Anonymous said...

really? Well I also learned in first grade Africa was a continent smartass.

craigs said...

Good discussion. It's interesting and I appreciate your view.
Killing Social Security is campaign rhetoric, and we will see lots of it from Perry and Obama. But there is little difference between ENDING SS and KILLING SS. Perry has spoken often and repeatedly about ENDING SS, as it stands. He has yet to speak about what he would replace it with. THAT, IMHO, is the problem.

Romney compared the treatment of the SS program to a criminal activity in his book. HE is right. Congress, both DEMS and REPUBLICANS, have frequently raided the " TRUST FUND " for additional money. That is the definition, as Romney illustrated , of a criminal ACTIVITY. But it certainly doesn't make the SS Fund itself illegal and he has never mentioned eliminating SS or that the idea itself was illegal.
The volume of traffic on this issue is testimony to the sensitivity of the issue. Perry has made a GIANT error that will haunt him in every debate and every state primary campaign from now on.


Ohio JOE said...

"Rick perry believes Social Security is a failure..." Hello, it is a failure!

"Romney is calling out those people who have breached the trust of the American people having raided and misappropriated the money in the SS trust fund." Funny how he does talk like this about those who are responsible for the housing crises.

Noelle said...

Digging through the campaign rhetoric on both sides certainly invites debate as to the intentions and purposes of the opposing sides. That being said, the way I see it, Perry has echoed the feelings of many people on the right, stating that SS is a failure. Romney, on the other hand, has taken the more leadership oriented approach by suggesting that while the use of the SS fund has been used inappropriately, he wants to fix it. And before any RomNots tell me to show them Romney's detailed plan on how to fix SS, let me just say that he did spend some time in his book discussing the issue, including several ideas on how to fix it. Furthermore, after his unveiling of the 59 point plan on how to address jobs, accompanied by a 160 page book on the subject, I am quite confident that Romney is more than capable of presenting a well thought out plan on how to address Social Security.

Perry = complain about the problem
Romney = lead and fix the problem

Right Wingnut said...


Spin, spin, spin.

Youre really good at that.

Noelle said...

What's wrong with what I said RW? You accuse me of spinning, but offer no substantial rebuttal.

And to quote your comment at 12:42 this morning, it's you're, not youre. (I'm just teasing. I know it was a type-o. One of my pet peeves is mixing up your and you're.)

hamaca said...

What I'm kind of enjoying is the quandary Rick Perry is in on the constitutionality part.

If he thinks it's fundamentally unconstitutional, then how could be justify keeping it in any form?

Anonymous said...

Love the flier! The graphics dept wonderfully captured Perry's wrinkles AND french cuffs in one single head shot! Those guys are geniuses. Ok, so I am shallow sometimes.

I don't see how Perry can overcome the sentiment that he wants to end social security. It will be hard to convince many that he really wants to save the institution he believes should not exist.