tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post7728056692436971675..comments2024-03-29T03:23:34.859-04:00Comments on RIGHT SPEAK: Debunking Trig TruthersBOSMANhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13613253160155525089noreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-44404120841396065652011-04-28T08:28:35.046-04:002011-04-28T08:28:35.046-04:00Hi everyone. I think it's great you all are ta...Hi everyone. I think it's great you all are talking about this. Question: why should we have to rely on "eyewitness accounts" of how pregnant she looked? If there was a hoax, isn't the point that she would have disguised herself to look pregnant? Most mothers have no trouble at all proving maternity with documentation.<br />- Brad ScharlottBscharlotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06667913621618808338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-19101867878582406372011-04-28T03:55:42.897-04:002011-04-28T03:55:42.897-04:00The criminals fear Dr Ron for good reason.The criminals fear Dr Ron for good reason.NadePaulKuciGravMcKinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-82323597975110795402011-04-27T21:24:14.983-04:002011-04-27T21:24:14.983-04:00Why is this garbage still being brought up?Why is this garbage still being brought up?ConManhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11609004367223801447noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-82801186316948478342011-04-27T16:33:55.847-04:002011-04-27T16:33:55.847-04:00Anony @2:12...What's most important is that ne...Anony @2:12...What's most important is that neither Palin nor Ram ( her mouth) have ever denied any part of the faked pregnancy,however, they are quick to spout off about silly articles in the NE..where they deny, deny, deny. One would think she would at least remember what town her fifth baby was born....nope..she has changed the story two times. Which is it Sarah, Anchorage or Wasilla?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-68607552129766511152011-04-27T16:30:30.136-04:002011-04-27T16:30:30.136-04:00@Dan, congrats on your upcoming new baby. How old ...@Dan, congrats on your upcoming new baby. How old are your other two children? Do they know that mommy is expecting a new baby? Can they tell by her belly? Sarah says even her kids didn’t know she was pregnant when she announced at 7 months. How can that be? Teen-age girls certainly would have noticed. Did she never hug her kids? Nothing in Sarah’s story is logical and nothing makes sense, except maybe to Sarah, who is also known to be a pathological liar. <br /><br />No woman goes from flat belly to huge belly in three days, unless she’s wearing an empathy belly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-74107240392307549292011-04-27T14:12:50.920-04:002011-04-27T14:12:50.920-04:00Oh my goodness! Are we still talking about this?
...Oh my goodness! Are we still talking about this?<br /><br />NOT RELEVANT!!!!!!Noellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13265626733214186809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-54740143436291674732011-04-27T14:12:30.357-04:002011-04-27T14:12:30.357-04:00Oh brother. I don't get why you all want to fi...Oh brother. I don't get why you all want to fight about this. No one knows for sure, and so it's all pointless until Palin decides to provide hard proof. Maybe she will, now that Obama has. It seems like there will be more pressure to do so if she decides to run. Then she can make everyone-including me--look stupid, as Obama did today. <br /><br />I don't really care. Until someone proves the photos are faked, it's still a question in my mind. As far as I know, the newspapers have not said the photos or dates are wrong. It's just as easy to throw out the faked photo claim, as it is to throw out the fake pregnancy claim.<br /><br />And the wild ride is still the silliest story, and the most irresponsible thing ever.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-26209601238922439152011-04-27T13:54:07.164-04:002011-04-27T13:54:07.164-04:00Any other sane readers notice how the Truthers kee...Any other sane readers notice how the Truthers keep telling me to do some research? It sounds an awful lot like that nonsense from X-Files 'the truth is out there.' <br /><br />Sanity in the US certainly seemed to take a dip after that conspiracy fest show became popular.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-68789524123082593502011-04-27T13:48:55.744-04:002011-04-27T13:48:55.744-04:00"Dan...you are trying way to hard to make the..."Dan...you are trying way to hard to make the faked pregnancy story go away. It's not going away...it has only just started to get heated up. Three books are coming out in the next few months that will reveal the truth. I'm sure that's why Sarah made some phone calls to those reporters who suddenly remember seeing her pregnant. Hundreds of eyewitnesses my butt. No one saw her pregnant during her magical three week pregnancy. Heck, even the airlines state that she was not pregnant during the "wild ride". I love it when a man tries to support her faked pregnancy. Women know the truth, men live in Sarah's life of lies and fantasies. Sarah is NOT Trig's biological mother...get used to it. I will not be wasting any more of my time on you or any other member of the Paliban who wouldn't know the truth is it kicked them in the butt. Keep sending her your money, you fool."<br /><br />Still no substantiation. Only wild ranting.<br /><br />Let me clear up a few points anyway. I am not a fan of Palin and have criticized her soundly on legitimate grounds, such as her quitting her governorship.<br /><br />I have not donated to Palin's PAC and have no intentions of donating to it or to a presidential campaign of hers.<br /><br />I have two children and a third on the way. My wife miscarried late term once as well. I was there for every birth and very much involved in every one of those pregnancies. <br /><br />It is a nonsequitor to say that only women can talk intelligently about Palin's pregnancy because men have never been pregnant. That is a false premise. Just as it is a false premise that only those who have served in the military can have a say in military matters.<br /><br />There are many, many women who do not buy into the Trig Truther crap either. And this pablum was started by men, Andrew Sullivan, Professor Bradford Scharlott, and author Joe McGinniss.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-28968179735167719452011-04-27T13:44:50.816-04:002011-04-27T13:44:50.816-04:00Haha, shhhhhh, Martha does not want to hear about ...Haha, shhhhhh, Martha does not want to hear about body parts. Other than that, I am afraid that I am speechless.OhioJOEnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-67549788130350724802011-04-27T13:41:28.800-04:002011-04-27T13:41:28.800-04:00"Here is the photo of her at a school functio..."Here is the photo of her at a school function. http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-2vab0IHpgGw/TbLmWr14YgI/AAAAAAAAAJ8/vJVfseob03c/s1600/Nail%2B%2Bin%2Bthe%2Bcoffin%2Bpicture%2B-%2BLARGE%2B2.jpg"<br /><br />I shouldn't even grace this nonsense with a response. But:<br /><br />1. Anonymous source for that photo. No documentation for when it was shot. <br /><br />2. Palin is bending down to embrace the kid in that photo. It therefore almost make her breasts look even with her stomach. But even then she still appears to have a stomach. Her belly still appears to recede back, inwards, towards her groin. But the image was conveniently cropped so that we can't see her groin area or legs to see if the belly really is protruding or not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-40381319916932380502011-04-27T13:41:20.262-04:002011-04-27T13:41:20.262-04:00Dan...you are trying way to hard to make the faked...Dan...you are trying way to hard to make the faked pregnancy story go away. It's not going away...it has only just started to get heated up. Three books are coming out in the next few months that will reveal the truth. I'm sure that's why Sarah made some phone calls to those reporters who suddenly remember seeing her pregnant. Hundreds of eyewitnesses my butt. No one saw her pregnant during her magical three week pregnancy. Heck, even the airlines state that she was not pregnant during the "wild ride". I love it when a man tries to support her faked pregnancy. Women know the truth, men live in Sarah's life of lies and fantasies. Sarah is NOT Trig's biological mother...get used to it. I will not be wasting any more of my time on you or any other member of the Paliban who wouldn't know the truth is it kicked them in the butt. Keep sending her your money, you fool.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-18059216961037032912011-04-27T13:36:26.385-04:002011-04-27T13:36:26.385-04:00"Why are you trying to change the subject? Th..."Why are you trying to change the subject? This is not related to Obama's birth certificate in any way."<br /><br />No it isn't a change of subject. You, Ellie, were quick to blast the birthers today when the White House released the birth certificate. That is one nutcase conspiracy sent to the grave. Trig Trutherism is another crazy conspiracy and is directly analogous to Birtherism. What is good for the goose is good for the gander.<br /><br />"This issue is about a woman who thinks she could be president, but tries to fake a pregnancy and creates an insane story about a wild ride."<br /><br />You have no evidence, zero, none, from a credible source to prove the pregnancy was faked. Your claims that the ride was wild are what are coming across as insane.<br /><br />"Doesn't seem like a person who used good judgement and who completely lack common sense." Considering your sources, how can you possibly judge what is sane, good judgment? A model of common sense you are not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-87785108889815769592011-04-27T13:31:52.375-04:002011-04-27T13:31:52.375-04:00Come on Dan...don't be such a coward. Do some ...Come on Dan...don't be such a coward. Do some research. Don't be afraid of the truth about the faked pregnancy the the impossibility of "Sarah's wild ride. When Sarah admits the big hoax and give her weak excuses for doing it, the Paliban will still think it's not true. Sarah's tiny little cult Paliban is made up of middle aged to senior men who have always been shunned by women and live their sexual fantasies via photos of the lying quitter. Women do not believe that she was pregnant...only dumb men."<br /><br />Still no substantiation, only a rant that would make Glenn Beck look sane by comparison.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-53944360228050249232011-04-27T13:29:29.910-04:002011-04-27T13:29:29.910-04:00Imagine if Palin were able to sue the Truthers for...Imagine if Palin were able to sue the Truthers for slander, how would the case be decided? <br /><br />Evidence from the Truthers: photoshopped pictures posted third (fourth, fifth, xth) party to the internet; wild speculation about the infamous plane ride; amici curii from dozens of insane, inconsequential, anonymous bloggers; and allegations that the judge and jury are dumb men, therefore unable to understand pregnancy.<br /><br />Evidence from the Palin counsel: hundreds of first hand, eyewitnesses who saw Palin pregnant; the doctor's testimony; a live and well baby Trig who didn't die or suffer any other horrible fate from that 20 hour 'wild ride'; original photos taken by news reporters at various public events during the pregnancy, photos that can easily be shown to be the originals via digital markers.<br /><br />Of course, if this were a court case then the court could just order paternity and maternity tests and that would setlle that. But the point is that on the eyewitness accounts alone the court would decide in favor of Palin. And the Truthers would have NOTHING.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-7729346835880732842011-04-27T13:16:20.345-04:002011-04-27T13:16:20.345-04:00Sorry I forgot to sign my name to my last comment ...Sorry I forgot to sign my name to my last comment 1:07 pm was me...EllieAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-45854947000629863312011-04-27T13:11:43.632-04:002011-04-27T13:11:43.632-04:00Congratulations Dan. You'll probably get 100 c...Congratulations Dan. You'll probably get 100 comments.Socratesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-8100599201874539872011-04-27T13:07:59.418-04:002011-04-27T13:07:59.418-04:00Come on Dan...don't be such a coward. Do some ...Come on Dan...don't be such a coward. Do some research. Don't be afraid of the truth about the faked pregnancy the the impossibility of Sarah's wild ride. When Sarah admits the big hoax and give her weak excuses for doing it, the Paliban will still think it's not true. Sarah's tiny little cult Paliban is made up of middle aged to senior men who have always been shunned by women and live their sexual fantasies via photos of the lying quitter. Women do not believe that she was pregnant...only dumb men.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-10200177789295809302011-04-27T13:07:10.403-04:002011-04-27T13:07:10.403-04:00I just did a truther search on this site. NOT ONE ...I just did a truther search on this site. NOT ONE of these posts where written by Martha. NOT ONE!Socratesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-65819497097780368712011-04-27T12:57:28.841-04:002011-04-27T12:57:28.841-04:00Anonellie,
LOLOLOL, you linked to fringe kook con...Anonellie,<br /><br />LOLOLOL, you linked to fringe kook conspiracy cites and expect that to refute the researched, documented articles written by reputable journalist that I linked above?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-13916468537159957602011-04-27T12:56:03.759-04:002011-04-27T12:56:03.759-04:00Dan, When I made the comment in the chat box, I ho...Dan, When I made the comment in the chat box, I honestly didn't mean to start a hullabaloo. I can see why you think I did, and I don't really expect anyone to believe otherwise. I didn't think before I typed.<br /><br />Huck knew the answer, and was doing it to sow division. I honestly was not doing it to start something. I just said what I thought. Careless yes, calculating no.<br /><br />-Martha<br /><br />-MarthaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-3865561651185049562011-04-27T12:54:43.459-04:002011-04-27T12:54:43.459-04:00Why are you trying to change the subject? This is ...Why are you trying to change the subject? This is not related to Obama's birth certificate in any way. This issue is about a woman who thinks she could be president, but tries to fake a pregnancy and creates an insane story about a wild ride. Doesn't seem like a person who used good judgement and who completely lack common sense.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-39095806744510510442011-04-27T12:52:48.977-04:002011-04-27T12:52:48.977-04:00not, lest ye be judge likelise.” Is Franklin a tru...not, lest ye be judge likelise.” Is Franklin a true Christian? By whose judgement?<br />I find it amusing that you have quoted the stories of those who deny the faked pregnancy but have completely left out the people who have researched the story since the day she announced her three week pregnancy. Here is the photo of her at a school function. http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-2vab0IHpgGw/TbLmWr14YgI/AAAAAAAAAJ8/vJVfseob03c/s1600/Nail%2B%2Bin%2Bthe%2Bcoffin%2Bpicture%2B-%2BLARGE%2B2.jpg<br /><br />Come on be brave to to http://politicalgates.blogspot.com/ where you can read the entire story and multiple dated photos. You will find both sides to the story, not just the few stories where they are trying to put the story to bed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-27113268677917836292011-04-27T12:51:15.923-04:002011-04-27T12:51:15.923-04:00Dan, yes, I did bring it to this site. I'm tot...Dan, yes, I did bring it to this site. I'm totally responsible for it. But I don't think it's a lie, I think it's a question. I said I have questions about it. I said I didn't know, but that I wondered. There is more evidence than the 2 articles you linked to. And then there is common sense.<br /><br />I still like you too, Dan. I respect your opinions, and have learned a lot from you.<br /><br />-MarthaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-17121073139713247342011-04-27T12:49:21.867-04:002011-04-27T12:49:21.867-04:00"The best part of the story is how reporters ..."The best part of the story is how reporters who knew she was pregnant but have waited all this time to come forward."<br /><br />Great point Ellie. Now why is it that Obama took three years to finally release his birth certificate? That must be false too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com