tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post7710658319758167255..comments2024-03-28T07:23:41.917-04:00Comments on RIGHT SPEAK: Mitt Romney, the Anti-PandererBOSMANhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13613253160155525089noreply@blogger.comBlogger46125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-69467395311497516832011-04-15T20:06:27.210-04:002011-04-15T20:06:27.210-04:00I find that most People usually use the word pande...I find that most People usually use the word pander to describe someone they're not particularly fond of, when that person says something that an audience agrees with.BOSMANhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613253160155525089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-14851787057032286462011-04-15T11:52:52.158-04:002011-04-15T11:52:52.158-04:00I respectfully told you several times that I would...I respectfully told you several times that I would not speak with a Minnesooooooooootan accent and I am glad that I was able to learn how to speak with an Eastern Ohian accent.OhajoJOSIPnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-66171436811436181392011-04-15T11:16:21.291-04:002011-04-15T11:16:21.291-04:00OJ, seriously? You don't think Pawlenty's ...OJ, seriously? You don't think Pawlenty's fake southern accent was a pander? HA HA HA!<br /><br />-MarthaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-11742633981728028962011-04-15T11:12:18.825-04:002011-04-15T11:12:18.825-04:00Oh Please Martha, if you were as Conservative as y...Oh Please Martha, if you were as Conservative as you claim, you would not in all honesty refer to the promotion of Conservatism as Pandering. Did you ever consider that maybe you should stop pandering to non-Conservatives? You are welcome to try it out.OhajoJOSIPnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-70223137531157357722011-04-15T10:21:29.184-04:002011-04-15T10:21:29.184-04:00Doug, good points.
I still want to know why othe...Doug, good points. <br /><br />I still want to know why others are allowed to have legitimate positions, but every single position Romney holds is somehow a pander.<br /><br />Is he NOT ALLOWED to hold a true position on ANYTHING?<br /><br />-Martha<br /><br />PS. Pawlenty is the worst. The fake southern accent in a couple of speeches takes the cake.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-86117079530776901002011-04-15T10:19:19.649-04:002011-04-15T10:19:19.649-04:00OJ, I laugh when you use the term intellectually h...OJ, I laugh when you use the term intellectually honest. You have twisted yourself into more pretzels over Romney than I can imagine.<br /><br />-MarthaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-88782487354325232732011-04-15T08:24:09.747-04:002011-04-15T08:24:09.747-04:00Well Noelle, I admire the fact that there are at l...Well Noelle, I admire the fact that there are at least a few people left in your camp who are intellectually honest.OhioJOEnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-32168278825684986662011-04-15T08:20:29.220-04:002011-04-15T08:20:29.220-04:00What is the difference between pandering and runni...What is the difference between pandering and running on your beliefs and principles? If your principles coincide with the strongly held beliefs of a certain group, is it pandering when you focus on them? I am not a one issue voter, but if I were, that one issue would be the economy. Is Mitt pandering to me when he emphasizes that issue?Noellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13265626733214186809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-81479328164867830762011-04-15T08:09:23.740-04:002011-04-15T08:09:23.740-04:00"First, his endorsement of Christine O'Do..."First, his endorsement of Christine O'Donnell in the general. There was absolutely no need for him to endorse her." Let it go buddy, your cap and tax candidate lost fair and square in the primary. Perhaps next time, you'll learn not to support an extreme liberal in the primary.<br /><br />"Are you going to tell me Palin, Gingrich, et al, were not pandering in their endless carping about the Mosque last year."<br /> Well, Doug, you are in the minority on that one.<br /><br /><br />"Are you going to tell me that Timmy Pawlenty, good man he may be, wasn't pandering, to the Tea Party and Talk Radio crowd, with that absurd "Action Movie" video he put out?" BINGO!!!! We have a winner, that is why we do not have a problem with voting for Mr. Pawlenty in the General despite the fact that he is not perfect.OhioJOEnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-58654888666709599452011-04-15T05:31:41.399-04:002011-04-15T05:31:41.399-04:00"Romney also refused to participate in the an..."Romney also refused to participate in the anti-Fed rhetoric that is growing in conservative circles" You just figured that out now, Generalismo???? Hello, he is Pro-Fed to pander to his banking buddies just like he pandered to you the other day to make you happy with your anti-Birtherism Crusade.<br /><br />Sometimes I wonder, if you were hired for entertainment purposes.OhioJOEnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-86200961103783942692011-04-15T04:38:12.375-04:002011-04-15T04:38:12.375-04:00Are you going to tell me that Timmy Pawlenty, good...Are you going to tell me that Timmy Pawlenty, good man he may be, wasn't pandering, to the Tea Party and Talk Radio crowd, with that absurd "Action Movie" video he put out?<br /><br />Are you going to tell me Palin, Gingrich, et al, were not pandering in their endless carping about the Mosque last year.<br /><br />Huckabee isn't pandering to his base, when he says he's more Sears than 5th Avenue? (I don't think those size 48 Portly suits he squeezes into are off the rack from Sears. I also doubt he'll be decorating his new $3 Million home from them as well.) <br /><br />Romney has been consistent on the Defense Budget for a long time: reform and cut waste, but keep the department strong and up to date. Are the other candidates pandering when they advocate a strong defense? Or a rational tax policy etc?<br /><br />Pandering is playing upto and throwing red meat out on the fringe issues like birtherism, socialism, from the comfort of a Fox News studio and pre-screened, softball questions.Doug NYC GOPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00457483710583021449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-15263027513756516662011-04-15T04:30:42.354-04:002011-04-15T04:30:42.354-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Doug NYC GOPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00457483710583021449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-47558283718681068852011-04-15T04:24:44.734-04:002011-04-15T04:24:44.734-04:00Mitt has been extremely CONSISTENT on MassCare - j...Mitt has been extremely CONSISTENT on MassCare - just look at that video the Dems are trying to tarnish him with. In he states it's good for MA. He has never maintained it should be rolled out as a Federal plan. If other states want to look at, take things from it fine, but not a "one size fits all" plan. <br /><br />When he speaks of getting HC reform for the nation, it's through the states enacting their own plans.<br /><br />It's seems people's bias prevents them from grasping this simple, yet most essential point.Doug NYC GOPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00457483710583021449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-8398913862811798982011-04-15T01:26:59.339-04:002011-04-15T01:26:59.339-04:00MWS "You don't detect ANY more defensive...MWS "You don't detect ANY more defensiveness in Mitt's treatment of MassCare? You think he brings it up as much in '11 as he did in '07? "<br /><br />He shouldn't. The problem Mitt has is not Masscare, it's people not seeking educate THEMSELVES on it. Instead, they listen to the media and Mitt's opponents. This puts Mitt in a situation of softly defending it while taking it to Obama for an unconstitutional law he passed.Spenzahttp://thecompetentconservative.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-66217878859131054402011-04-15T01:23:33.437-04:002011-04-15T01:23:33.437-04:00Matt MWS, it would not be wise for Mitt to ALWAYS ...Matt MWS, it would not be wise for Mitt to ALWAYS be in a defensive type of posture regarding Masscare. He has answered much, he can touch little and let people do their research, and take it at Obama to put him on the defense. <br /><br />Mitt's playing it right.Spenzahttp://thecompetentconservative.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-43474183404447636352011-04-15T00:26:56.820-04:002011-04-15T00:26:56.820-04:00Martha,
You don't detect ANY more defensivene...Martha,<br /><br />You don't detect ANY more defensiveness in Mitt's treatment of MassCare? You think he brings it up as much in '11 as he did in '07?Matt "MWS"https://www.blogger.com/profile/10430359603722585939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-69318063503456318552011-04-15T00:25:00.004-04:002011-04-15T00:25:00.004-04:00hamaca,
You're just pandering to the intellec...hamaca,<br /><br />You're just pandering to the intellectually rigorous.Matt "MWS"https://www.blogger.com/profile/10430359603722585939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-60401812757784159332011-04-15T00:10:29.683-04:002011-04-15T00:10:29.683-04:00Martha, thanks for clarifying. I'm getting rea...Martha, thanks for clarifying. I'm getting ready to move into my first apartment and my books are in boxes.<br />MikeZAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-35249642520049551712011-04-15T00:02:27.146-04:002011-04-15T00:02:27.146-04:00"Pander", "Pandering" is over-..."Pander", "Pandering" is over-used and vague almost to the point of being meaningless. I think it's a lazy accusation to make against most any candidate.hamacahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13236317902162863355noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-35539001361906418482011-04-14T23:50:07.548-04:002011-04-14T23:50:07.548-04:00The fact that he re-phrased/clarified it in the pa...The fact that he re-phrased/clarified it in the paperback means he would like it to be completely understood that he doesn't want a national plan like MassCare, and he does not want the impression of anything else.<br /><br />-MarthaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-4501868353241503942011-04-14T23:47:55.668-04:002011-04-14T23:47:55.668-04:00Mike, I found the item in question. It is on page ...Mike, I found the item in question. It is on page 177. Romney has just explained the Mass plan. The sentence that is supposedly the gotcha moment is where Romney states:<br /><br />"We can accomplish the same thing for everyone in the country, and it can be done without letting government take over health care."<br /><br />The problem with the assumption that he wants MassCare as a federal program is that the sentence is taken out of context. In the preceding paragraphs he states:<br /><br />"The notion of getting the federal government into the health insurance business is a very bad idea."<br /><br />Then he explains why, and how it would lead to single payer system.<br /><br />Next: "My own preference would be to let each state fashion it's own program . . . States could follow the Mass model if they choose, or they could develop plans of their own." <br /><br />Romney clearly does NOT want a national plan, and has NEVER said so.<br /><br />-MarthaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-80880858487257727882011-04-14T23:29:43.487-04:002011-04-14T23:29:43.487-04:00MWS, Romney has been entirely consistent on MassCa...MWS, Romney has been entirely consistent on MassCare. He has not distance himself from it. He has always said it was good for Mass, it has some problems, and that it is a state plan--not meant to be a model for federal health care. He said other states can learn from it, or implement, whatever.<br /><br />I know someone thought they had a gotcha on the quote from the book, but every statement he's ever made has been that he did not intend it to be a federal plan. <br /><br />-MarthaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-34822750636642448792011-04-14T23:24:55.184-04:002011-04-14T23:24:55.184-04:00Matt, maybe I missed it when I read No Apology, bu...Matt, maybe I missed it when I read No Apology, but what and where exactly is that sentence you're talking about? <br />MikeZAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-35767882955852358192011-04-14T23:22:48.428-04:002011-04-14T23:22:48.428-04:00Dan, you have a point on Joe Miller. But by then, ...Dan, you have a point on Joe Miller. But by then, Joe Miller was being investigated and all that stuff came out about how he lied, etc. If O'Donnell was bad, Joe was way worse.<br /><br />It seems like you expect Romney to be better than everyone else. That's not fair. A lot of people endorsed O'Donnell after she won, but I don't think you would call them panderers.<br /><br />-MarthaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-56344573488805100442011-04-14T23:11:47.318-04:002011-04-14T23:11:47.318-04:00Pablo,
"His answers to his health care plan ...Pablo,<br /><br />"His answers to his health care plan have been consistent,"<br /><br />Are they? Does he still say how proud he is of it? Does he still suggest- as he did in the FIRST edition of his book- that what he did in MA, he can do for the country? Does he even still bring it up, unsolicited? <br /><br />In relation to MassCare, Romney's acting like a formerly proud papa, who would brag constantly about his kid, until he discovered that the real father was the milkman.Matt "MWS"https://www.blogger.com/profile/10430359603722585939noreply@blogger.com