tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post3221245496610234770..comments2024-03-18T03:18:46.825-04:00Comments on RIGHT SPEAK: Science And The GOPBOSMANhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13613253160155525089noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-60138928103815955212011-06-05T16:52:29.682-04:002011-06-05T16:52:29.682-04:00Nice work, Dennis. Somebody should work up a FPP ...Nice work, Dennis. Somebody should work up a FPP around those quotes.GetRealnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-62264130357786726192011-06-05T07:17:34.750-04:002011-06-05T07:17:34.750-04:00Mitt Speaks common sense. Here is what he said in ...Mitt Speaks common sense. Here is what he said in 2008 which is no different than now...here 2008<br /><br /> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3X2O7oqQR4A&feature=share <br /><br />In his book he says the same thing. What seems to be lost is he states he doesnt pretend to know how much man has to do with anything so he is not projecting a significant percentage.<br /><br />“I am uncertain how much of the warming, however, is attributable to man and how much is attributable to factors out of our control. I do not support radical feel-good policies like a unilateral U.S. cap-and-trade mandate. Such policies would have little effect on climate but could cripple economic growth with devastating results for people across the planet.” -- Mitt Romney No Apology, p. 227<br /><br />Summary: Mitt Romney on Cap and Trade/Global Warming<br /><br />*Cap and Trade legislation would be disastrous for our economy.<br /><br />*The earth’s climate has been constantly changing throughout its history.<br /><br />*We should not take extreme measures when we are unsure of human role in global warming.<br /><br /> “In 2004, Danish economist Bjorn Lomborg gathered ten of the world’s leading economists, including three Nobel laureates, in what he called the Copenhagen Consensus. He asked them prioritize the greatest problems faced by humankind. They w...ere not asked to determine which problems were the most severe, but rather to rank the most severe global challenges according to the coast and benefit of overcoming them… Astonishingly, spending money to prevent global warming came in last. Why? To reduce global temperature even by a very small amount requires enormous investment. Achieving the Kyoto objectives, they reasoned, would cost $150 billion a year and only delay the global temperature that would otherwise have been reached in the year 2100 by six years.” -- No Apology, p. 228-229 <br /><br />DennisAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-10876239297503540732011-06-05T07:10:30.679-04:002011-06-05T07:10:30.679-04:00I look at 3 basic things, that unless addressed to...I look at 3 basic things, that unless addressed totally sinks America. Deficit Spending, The Economy and Loss of Jobs. If this does not change and drastically, America is done..Period. What is lost on People is that Mitt Romney Governed a state with a 85% liberal legislature. He took over a state 50th in unemployment. In his one term it ended up 11th. How do you over look that? He also balanced a 3 billion dollar spending deficit by cutting 341 social programs. That is downsizing Government. He also created 60 thousand jobs just out of bringing in new Companies to the state, and more were created by his business friendly policies. Why do people overlook this? Its stupid on their part.<br /><br />~DennisAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-24360233864339448892011-06-04T21:04:15.127-04:002011-06-04T21:04:15.127-04:00Why would RED STATE let a little thing like common...Why would RED STATE let a little thing like common sense and facts skew their already skewed views.Revolution 2012https://www.blogger.com/profile/17567911992728079281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-14245508914766826612011-06-04T20:05:50.833-04:002011-06-04T20:05:50.833-04:00We had to see it last time, JR. He and Rudy were ...We had to see it last time, JR. He and Rudy were the only ones that got any vetting by the media in the 08 primary, at least until after Iowa voted. He made a negative ad on Huckabee because none of Huck's negatives were being reported, just the "Cinderella story" of his rising poll numbers with so little money.<br /><br />Also, his strategy may be more focused, but what's so moderate about it? He's focusing on the economy because that happens to be the major issue right now. If in the debates, or when asked, he hedges on other issues he was conservative on before, I'll agree with your comments on his strategy. Until then, I don't see any basis to your comment.GetRealnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-6341649143500728722011-06-04T19:33:49.076-04:002011-06-04T19:33:49.076-04:00Once again...I believe you Martha...how many times...Once again...I believe you Martha...how many times do I have to tell you? The truth is he has decided to take a more moderate strategy toward the nomination...every pundit has seen this and has written about this. You don't think that has the possibility of hurting him? You don't think that the MSM will pick apart his flips and flops and say it's the same old Mitt? You guys are about to see a fraction of what Palin had to endure.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-45281347308688253592011-06-04T19:26:51.999-04:002011-06-04T19:26:51.999-04:00Jersey, and yes, he did say the same thing about c...Jersey, and yes, he did say the same thing about climate change in 08 that he is saying now. I remember it in at least one of the debates.<br /><br />-MarthaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-51422224938119223922011-06-04T19:25:47.011-04:002011-06-04T19:25:47.011-04:00Jersey, There is not one issue in which Romney has...Jersey, There is not one issue in which Romney has changed since the last election. Not one. Everything he wrote in the book is the same policy he had when he ran in 08. <br /><br />Everything in the book is the same policy he has now.<br /><br />Please provide some proof for your assertions on ONE ISSUE. I don't believe you can, because it doesn't exist. Of course people are going top accuse Romney of changing positions, but the truth is that he hasn't.<br /><br />-MarthaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-13861954608890009682011-06-04T19:22:15.512-04:002011-06-04T19:22:15.512-04:00Romney had the same acknowledge it as likely but g...Romney had the same acknowledge it as likely but government hands off stance on climate change in 2008 as he does now. Its not a change in theme. Global warming isn't part of his theme, he was asked about it and gave his opinion.GetRealnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-76752924979210699272011-06-04T19:18:44.950-04:002011-06-04T19:18:44.950-04:00"Alaska's climate is warming. While there..."Alaska's climate is warming. While there have been warming and cooling trends before, climatologists tell us that the current rate of warming is unprecedented within the time of human civilization. Many experts predict that Alaska, along with our northern latitude neighbors, will warm at a faster pace than any other areas, and the warming will continue for decades."<br /><br />What business is it of Romney's what the climate is like in Alaska?<br /><br />Oh, wait, those were Sarah Palin's words.GetRealnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-18765192959006537602011-06-04T19:05:54.188-04:002011-06-04T19:05:54.188-04:00Martha, as always you feel the need to bring up Pa...Martha, as always you feel the need to bring up Palin when we're not talking about her but I'll take the bait. You know, as well as I do, that she had to take the pro-ethanol subsidy stance when she was on McCain's ticket but whatever...I guess you can call her a flip-flopper if you want but you cannot compare it to Romney's past flirtation with the beach footwear.<br /><br />As far as global warming, I never said I disagreed with Romney's point of view, or Palin's...the difference is Palin never tried to back away from her stances or talk her way out of them.<br /><br />Again...it's not about his specific stance on this specific issue...it's about the overall theme.<br /><br />jerseyrepublicanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-62093993051022654342011-06-04T19:01:28.222-04:002011-06-04T19:01:28.222-04:00Martha, I have no problem with moderates...I am on...Martha, I have no problem with moderates...I am one...as long as they realize that they are part of a bigger picture and that bigger picture is Republican Conservatism. In some ways I wish Romney would just be who he is or who he was before 2007 or 2002 or back in '94. Every election we see a new version of a "new and improved" Romney, it is now getting to the point that I don't even know if he knows who he is any more...and that will be his problem with this election.<br /><br />jerseyrepublicanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-47952480467834343952011-06-04T18:54:56.834-04:002011-06-04T18:54:56.834-04:00Martha, almost every pundit has referred to him as...Martha, almost every pundit has referred to him as a centrist...or taking the moderate, indie route this time around. C'mon now...<br /><br />jerseyrepublicanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-68729994886974452662011-06-04T18:53:29.454-04:002011-06-04T18:53:29.454-04:00There is no way during 2008 that Romney would have...There is no way during 2008 that Romney would have admitted that he believes humans have caused global warming...or at least have a part in it. <br /><br />What Romney did, which I give him credit for...because it was rather brilliant. He wrote a policy book that he inundated with his own, Romney 3.0 ideological beliefs. Some are more conservative than others. This time around he doesn't want to get caught with his pants down regarding flip flopping...so as long as he sticks to everything he wrote about in the good book...he feels he shoudn't have a problem.<br /><br />He hopes people will forget about his run to the right in 2008 by providing political cover, via No Apologies...as he runs to the center this go around.<br /><br />jerseyrepublicanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-38096681089438731512011-06-04T17:41:27.704-04:002011-06-04T17:41:27.704-04:00Concrete examples would make it easier to understa...Concrete examples would make it easier to understand what you guys are getting at.GetRealnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-15734898291405387562011-06-04T17:23:51.730-04:002011-06-04T17:23:51.730-04:00Jersey and OJ. Name a way Romney has moved to the ...Jersey and OJ. Name a way Romney has moved to the middle. I'd sure like to see some proof.<br /><br />-MarthaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-17165051442714200422011-06-04T17:20:49.669-04:002011-06-04T17:20:49.669-04:00Well, GetReal, he may not be both advancing and re...Well, GetReal, he may not be both advancing and retreating at the same time, but a whole lot of us see some retreating.Ohio JOEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03487408376861656109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-44207261120477538292011-06-04T16:31:56.276-04:002011-06-04T16:31:56.276-04:00Huh?
He's focusing his campaign on the econom...Huh?<br /><br />He's focusing his campaign on the economy at this point but I don't see him advancing and retreating to and from conservative positions vis a vis his last run.GetRealnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-4040666074177051052011-06-04T15:26:53.049-04:002011-06-04T15:26:53.049-04:00GR, the about face I was referring to had nothing ...GR, the about face I was referring to had nothing to do with his specific stance on global warming as much as it had to do with his overall move to the center since his failed 2008 bid for the nomination. <br /><br />Romney supporters can point to specifics all they want and they can tell me and every other non-believer to go to this page and this verse of No Apologies and they may be proved correct but the theme surrounding Romney's advance and retreat, to and from conservative positions cannot be denied.<br /><br />jerseyrepublicanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-8899920746295917252011-06-04T14:09:49.568-04:002011-06-04T14:09:49.568-04:00"I'm not sure why he thinks another about..."I'm not sure why he thinks another about face, with his identity, will work this time when it hasn't worked once since his gubernatorial election?"<br /><br />JR, how is this an about face? Does anyone remember in the debates last time out when he said it was global warming, not "America warming?" This isn't something he has reversed on, he always had this stance - and as long as his policy position on it also stays the same, I'm perfectly fine with it. Its not even a change in tone, this was a response to someone directly asking him about it, its not like he brought it up of his own accord in a speech.GetRealnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-12781781389432089682011-06-04T13:22:57.204-04:002011-06-04T13:22:57.204-04:00If anybody thinks humans don't have anything t...If anybody thinks humans don't have anything to do with " some " global warming, go suck the tail pipe on your car for a half hour or so and see what happens. Then, multiply how you feel by a couple of billion tail pipes and give a guess at the result<br /><br /> CraigScraigshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15138325151411322787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-86591774749080295752011-06-04T12:26:24.491-04:002011-06-04T12:26:24.491-04:00OJ, no. None of my comments were about the content...OJ, no. None of my comments were about the content of what Palin said. I'll leave that for the others to sort out. I said she sounded and looked drunk, and had her usual articulation problem. Look at the video again, OJ, and find some time to laugh a little. It was really funny.<br /><br />And yes, Romney was smeared/accused of pandering AND of being a liberal on GW. How those can both be true, I have no idea. <br /><br />Like I said, read the book.<br /><br /><br />-MarthaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-54594678333375137932011-06-04T11:27:31.496-04:002011-06-04T11:27:31.496-04:00You cannot have it both ways. It was your own fri...You cannot have it both ways. It was your own friends in the media who covered Mrs. Palin instead of your guy. We warned you, but like the swells, you did not listen.<br /><br />Well, we did not lie about Mr. Romney. You on the other hand accused Mrs. Palin of not being sober simply because she used a figure of speech and took poetic license.Ohio JOEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03487408376861656109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-806695687154200122011-06-04T10:49:49.585-04:002011-06-04T10:49:49.585-04:00OJ, A smear, as I understand it, is to lie about s...OJ, A smear, as I understand it, is to lie about someone. I didn't lie about Palin. I said she looked drunk and that the video was funny. I admit I was not very nice. But then, neither was Palin when she crashed Romney's party.<br /><br />-MarthaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3571954475140446599.post-7245593347131109812011-06-04T10:32:39.785-04:002011-06-04T10:32:39.785-04:00"They're just looking for anything with w..."They're just looking for anything with which to smear Romney." Ding ding ding. We have a winner; the same lady who smeared Mrs. Palin yesterday even after a fellow Romneyite already dealt with the issue in the chat box.Ohio JOEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03487408376861656109noreply@blogger.com